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泰国农民Jon Jandai用另一种视角看待生活，生活本来很简单，我们干嘛要把它搞得这么艰难？

Jon Jandai: Life is easy. Why do we make it so hard?

生活本来很简单，我们干嘛要把它搞得这么艰难？

There is one word that I have always wanted to say to everybody in my life. That word is "Life is easy." It’s so easy and fun. Before that, I never think like that.

有这样一句话，我想与我生活中的每一个人分享。这句话就是「生活很简单」。很简单，又充满乐趣。以前我不是这么想的。

When I was in Bangkok, I felt like life is very hard, very complicated.

当我在曼谷的时候，我感到生活很艰难、很复杂。

I was born in a poor village on the Northeastern of Thailand. And when I was a kid, everything was fun and easy, but when the TV came, many people came to the village, they said, "You are poor, you need to follow success for your life. You need to go to Bangkok to pursue success in your life."

我出生在泰国东北部一个贫困的小乡村，我小的时候，一切都是那么有趣、那么简单，但是后来出现了电视机，很多人来到村子里，他们说：“你这么穷，你需要追求一个成功的生活。你应该去曼谷追求成功的生活。”

So I felt bad, I felt poor. So I needed to go to Bangkok.

我感觉很糟糕，意识到自己的贫穷。我觉得自己需要到曼谷去。

University Learning

大学学习反思

When I went to Bangkok, it was not very fun. You need to learn, study a lot and work very hard, and then you can get success.

当我来到曼谷，那里很没意思。你需要学习很多东西，非常辛苦地工作，然后才可以享受成功。

I worked very hard, eight hours per day at least, but what I can eat is just a bowl of noodles per meal, or some Tama dish of fried rice or something like that.

我努力工作，每天至少8个小时，但是每餐饭只能吃到一碗面条或者是多摩菜，或者炒米饭之类的东西。

And where I stayed was very bad, a small room with a lot of people slept. It’s very hot.

我和很多人一起住在一个条件很差且很小的房间里。房间里非常闷热。

I started to question a lot. When I work hard, why is my life so hard? It must be something wrong, because I produce a lot of things, but I cannot get enough. And I tried to learn, I tried to study. I tried to study in the university.

我开始时常问自己。我努力工作，为什么生活还这么艰难？一定是哪里出了问题，因为我生产了很多东西，但是得到的却很少。我努力学习，非常努力的学习。并设法在大学里学习。

It’s very hard to learn in university, because it’s very boring.

在大学里学习很辛苦，因为课程很无聊。（笑声）

And when I looked at subjects in the university, in every faculty, most of them had destructive knowledge. There’s no productive knowledge in university for me. When I look at something like if you learn to be an architect or engineer, that means you ruin more. The more these people work, the mountain will be destroyed more. And a good land in Chao Praya Basin will be covered with concrete more and more. We destroy more.

当我看到大学里的课程和专业，传授的几乎都是破坏性的知识。大学里没有对我有用的知识。如果你学习建筑或者工程专业，意味着你将破坏更多的东西。这些人的工作越繁忙，就有越多的山林被破坏。昭披耶盆地的大好土地会被越来越多的混凝土所覆盖，我们会破坏的更多。

If we learn agriculture faculty or something like that, that means you learn how to poison, to toxicate the land, the water, and learn to destroy everything. I feel like everything we do is so complicated, so hard. And everything we just make it hard.

如果是类似农业这样的专业，意味着我们学习如何下毒毒害土地和水，学习破坏一切。我觉得我们做的每件事都是那么复杂，那么困难。我们人为制造了很多困难。

Life is so hard and I felt disappointed.

生活太难了，我觉得很失望。

I started to think about, why I have to be here in Bangkok? I thought about when I was a kid, nobody worked eight hours per day, everybody worked two hours, two months a year, planting rice one month and harvesting the rice another month. The rest is free time, ten months of free time. That’s why people have so many festivals in Thailand, every month they have festival. Because they have so much free time.

我开始思考，我为什么要到曼谷来呢？我记得在我小的时候，没有人会一天工作8个小时，大家每天只工作两小时，每年只工作两个月，一个月种大米，一个月收大米。其它时间都是空闲的，十个月闲置时间，这就是为什么泰国有那么多的节日，每个月都有节日。因为他们有太多的自由时间。

And then in the daytime, everybody even takes a nap. Even now in Laos, if anybody go to Laos if you can, people take a nap after lunch. And after they wake up, they just gossip, how’s your son-in-law, how’s your wife, daughter-in-law. People have a lot of time, but because they have a lot of time, they have time to be with themselves.

白天的时候，每个人都会睡午觉。现在即使在老挝，你可以去老挝看看，人们在午饭后也会睡。午觉睡醒之后，他们就闲聊你的女婿怎么样、你的妻子、儿媳妇如何如何。人们有太多的时间，因为他们有这么多的时间，他们就可以从容地做回自己。

And when they have time to be with themselves, they have time to understand themselves. When they understand themselves, they can see what they want in their life. So, many people see that they want happiness, they want love, they want to enjoy their life.

当他们有时间做回自己，他们就有时间了解自己。当他们了解了自己，就可以看到自己一生的目标是什么。很多人发现他们想要幸福，想要爱，想要享受生活。

So, people see a lot of beauty in their life, so they express that beauty in many ways. Some people by carving the handle of their knife, very beautiful, the baskets they are weaving very nicely. But, now, nobody does that. Nobody can do something like that. People use plastic everywhere.

于是人们看到了生命中的许多美丽，他们用各种各样的方式来展现美丽，有些人喜欢雕刻刀柄很漂亮，他们编的篮子很好看。但是现在，没人做这个工作了，再也没有人会这项手艺了，到处都是塑胶。

So, I feel like it’s something wrong in there, I cannot live in this way of living. So, I decided to quit University, and went back home.

所以我觉得肯定出了一些问题，我不能用现在这种方式生活下去，于是我决定离开大学回到家乡。

When I went back home, I started to live like I remember, like when I was a kid. I started to work two months a year. I got four tons of rice. And the whole family, six people, we eat less than half a ton per year. So we can sell some rice.

当我回到家乡，我开始了我小时候记忆中的生活方式。我每年只工作两个月，就收获了四吨大米。一家六口人一年吃不到半吨大米，所以我们还可以卖出一些大米。

And then I dug two ponds, two fish ponds. We have fish to eat all year round. And I started a small garden. Less than half an acre. And I spend 15 minutes per day to take care of the garden. I have more than 30 varieties of vegetables in the garden. So, six people cannot eat all of it. We have a surplus to sell in the market. We can make some income in there, too.

我挖了两个鱼塘，里面的鱼足够我们吃一整年。我还搞了一个小菜园，不到半英亩，我每天花15分钟打理菜园，里面种了30多种蔬菜。所以，六口人根本吃不了，我们还可以拿到市场去卖，还能有一些收入。

House

住

So, I feel like, it’s easy, why I have to be in Bangkok for seven years, working hard and then not have enough to eat, but here, only two months a year and 15 minutes per day I can feed six people. That’s easy.

我觉得这太轻松了，为什么要去曼谷辛苦工作7年，还吃不饱呢？在这里，我每年工作两个月，每天花15分钟时间就可以养活六口人，太轻松了。

And before I think that stupid people like me who never get a good grade in the school, cannot have a house. Because people who are cleverer than me, who get number one in the class every year, they get a good job, but they need to work more than 30 years to have a house. But for me who cannot finish university, how can I have a house? Hopeless for people who have low education, like me.

以前我觉得，像我这样在学校里从没取得过好成绩的笨蛋，肯定连栋房子都买不起。因为比我聪明、每年都在班级里排名第一的那些人，他们有一份好工作，但也需要工作30多年才能买一栋房子。但是我呢？没有读完大学，怎么能拥有一栋房子？像我这样没有受过教育的人，是没有希望的。

But, then I started to do earthly building, it’s so easy. I spend two hours per day, from 5 o’clock in the morning, to 7 o’clock in the morning, two hours per day. And in three months, I got a house.

但是当我开始用老方法盖房，我每天花两个小时，从早上5点到早上7点，每天两个小时，三个月之后，我有了一座房子。

And another friend who’s the most clever in the class, he spent three months to build his house, too. But, he had to be in debt. He had to pay for his debt for 30 years. So, compared to him, I have 29 years and 10 months of free time. So, I feel that life is so easy.

我的一个朋友，他是班上最聪明的学生，他也花了三个月盖起自己的房子，但他不得不负债，要偿还债务30年，所以，和他相比，我多了29年10个月的自由时间。所以，我觉得生活很简单。

I never think I can build a house easy like that. And I keep building a house every year, at least one house a very year. Now, I have no money, but I have many houses.

我从未想过这么容易地盖起一座房子。于是我继续盖房子，每年至少盖一座。现在，我没有钱，但是我有很多房子。（笑声）

My problem is tonight which house I will go to sleep tonight.

我的烦恼就是每晚要在哪个房子里睡觉。（笑声）

So, a house is not a problem, anybody can build a house. The kids, 13 years old, at the school, they make bricks together, they make a house. After one month, they have a library. The kids can make a house, a very old nun can build a hut for herself. Many people can build a house. So, it’s easy.

所以，盖栋房子不是问题，谁都能盖房子。学校里13岁的孩子们，他们把砖块拼在一起，就有了一座房子。一个月之后，他们就有了一个图书馆。孩子们可以盖房，老奶奶也可以给自己盖一个小棚屋。很多人都可以盖房子。所以，这很简单。

If you don’t believe me, try it. If somebody wants to have a house.

如果你不相信，自己去试试，只要你想要把房子盖起来。

Clothing

衣

And then, the next thing is clothing.

接下来的一件事是衣服。

I feel like I’m poor, I feel like I’m not handsome. I tried to dress like somebody else, like a movie star. To make myself look good, look better.

我觉得自己很穷，长得也不帅气。我试图穿得像别人一样，像电影明星一样，让我自己更好看。

I spent one month to save money to buy a pair of jeans. When I wear it, I turn left, and turn right, look at the mirror. Every time I look, I am the same person. The most expensive pant cannot change my life. I feel like I’m so crazy, why I have to buy it? Spend one month to have a pair of pants. It doesn’t change me.

我用存了一个月的钱，买了一条牛仔裤。我穿上它，左转转，右转转照着镜子。再怎么看，我还是我自己。最贵的裤子也改变不了我的生活。我觉得自己疯了，为什么要买这个东西？花一个月的积蓄买一条裤子，改变不了我。

I started to think more about that. Why we need to follow fashion? Because, when we follow fashion, we never catch up with it, because we follow it. So, don’t follow it, just stay here. Use what you have.

我更深入地思考。我们为什么要追求时尚？因为我们是追逐时尚，但是永远追不上，永远是跟在后面。所以不要再追了，停下吧。（笑声）用你自己有的东西。

So, after that, until now, 20 years, I never buy any clothes. All the clothes I have is leftovers from people. When people come to visit me, and when they left, they left a lot of clothes there. So, I have tons of clothes now.

所以，从那以后一直到现在，20年来，我没有买过衣服。我所有的衣服都是别人不要了给我的。人们来拜访我，他们走的时候给我留下很多衣服。所以我现在有成堆的衣服。（笑声）

And when people see me wear very old clothes, they give me more clothes. So, my problem is, I need to give clothes to people very often now.

当人们看到我穿的旧衣服，就会送给我更多的衣服。（笑声）所以我现在的烦恼是，我需要经常把衣服送给别人。（笑声）

So, it’s so easy.

所以，很简单。

And when I stopped buying clothes, I feel like, it’s not only clothes, it’s about something else in my life, What I learned is that when I buy something, and I think about, I buy it because I like it, or I buy it because I need it.

当我不再买衣服，我感到，不仅仅是衣服，还有生活中其它的一些事情，我明白，当我买一些东西，我觉得是因为我喜欢它或者是因为我需要它。

So, if I buy it because I like it, that means I’m wrong. So, I feel more free when I think like this.

如果是因为我喜欢它，就说明我错了。想到这一点，我觉得更自由了。

Medicine

药

And the last thing is, when I get sick, what will I do?

最后一件事是，如果我生病了该怎么办？

I really worried in the beginning, because when I have no money, what I will do. But, I started to contemplate more. Normally, sickness is a normal thing, it’s not a bad thing. Sickness is something to remind us that we did something wrong in my life, that’s why we get sick.

开始的时候我很担心，因为当时我没有钱，该怎么办？但是，我开始更深入地思考，生病很正常，并不是一件坏事。生病是在提醒我们，在生活中做错了某些事情，所以我们才会生病。

So, when I get sick, I need to stop and come back to myself. And think about it, what I did was wrong.

所以生病的时候，我需要停下来反省自己，仔细考虑哪里做错了。

So, I learned how to use water to heal myself, how to use earth to heal myself, I learned how to use basic knowledge to heal myself.

所以我学会用水来治疗自己，用大自然资源来治疗自己，用一些最基础的知识治疗自己。

So, now that I rely on myself in these four things, I feel like life is very easy, I feel something like freedom, I feel free. I feel like I don’t worry about anything much, I have less fear, I can do whatever I want in my life.

所以，这四件事情，我全部自给自足，我觉得这很简单，我感觉到自由、轻松。我觉得不需要为任何事情担心，我不再害怕，我可以做自己想做的事情。

Before, I had a lot of fear, I cannot do anything. But, now I feel very free, I feel like I’m a unique person on this Earth, nobody like me, I don’t need to make myself like anybody else. I’m the number one.

早先我很害怕，很多事情不能做。但是现在我很自由，感觉象是地球上独一无二的人，我再也不需要让自己去模仿任何人。唯我独尊。

So, things like this make it easy, very light. And, after that, I started to think about that when I was in Bangkok, I felt very dark in my life. I started to think that many people maybe thought like me at the time.

这么想，事情很简单、很轻松。之后，我开始思考，当我在曼谷的时候，我感觉生活一片黑暗，或许很多人和我的感觉一样。

So, we started a place called "Pun Pun" in Chiang Mai. The main aim is just saving seed. To collect seed, because seed is food, food is life. If there is no seed, no life. No seed, no freedom. No seed, no happiness. Because your life depends on somebody else. Because you have no food.

所以我们在清迈建立了个叫做「PunPun」的地方，主要的目的是节约种子。收集种子，因为种子就是食物，而食物就是生命。没有种子，就没有生命；没有种子，就没有自由；没有种子，就没有幸福。没有食物，你的生命就要依赖其他人。

So, it’s very important to save seed. That’s why we focus on saving seed. That’s the main thing in Pun Pun.

所以，收集种子是非常重要的。这就是为什么我们要收集种子。这就是PunPun的目的。

And the second thing is it is the learning center.

第二个行动是建立学习中心。

We want to have a center for ourselves to learn, learn how to make life easy. Because we were taught to make life complicated and hard all the time. How can we make it easy? It’s easy, but we don’t know how to make it easy anymore. Because we always make it complicated and now, we start to learn, and learn to be together.

我们希望有一个可以学习的地方，学习如何让生活变得轻松.因为我们学习到的东西总是让我们的生活变得复杂、艰难.我们怎么会让生活变得简单？其实生活一点都不难，但是我们已经不知道怎样让生活变得简单了，因为我们总是把它搞得复杂，所以我们需要学习，学会协作。

Because, we were taught to disconnect ourselves from everything else, to be independent, so we can rely on the money only. We don’t need to rely on each other. But now, to be happy, we need to come back, to connect to ourselves again, to connect to other people, to connect our mind and body together again.

因为我们学到的是把自己与周围一切隔断联系，完全独立，所以我们只能依赖金钱，而不需要依赖其他人。但是现在，为了幸福，我们必须回归自我，与他人保持联系，让我们的心灵与身体真正结合。

So, we can be happy. Life is easy. And from beginning until now, what I learned is the four basic needs: food, house, clothes and medicine must be cheap and easy for everybody, that’s the civilization.

在一起,这样我们就能获得幸福，生活很简单。从开始到现在，我了解了四个基本需求：食物、住房、衣服和药物。它们必须足够便宜，可以让所有人方便获得，这才是文明。

But, if you make these four things hard and very hard for many people to get, that’s uncivilized.

但是如果你让人们很难得到这四样东西，就是不文明。

So, now when we look at everywhere around us, everything is so hard to get. So I feel like now is the most uncivilized era of humans on this Earth.

那么我们看看身边的一切，每一样东西都很难得到。所以我觉得现在是人类历史上最原始的时代。

We have so many people who finish from university, have so many universities on the Earth, have so many clever people on this Earth. But, life is harder and harder. We make it hard for whom? We work hard for whom right now?

有那么多的人从大学毕业，世界上有那么多大学，有那么多充满智慧的人，但是生活却越来越艰难。这究竟是为了谁？我们现在努力工作是为了谁？

I feel like it’s wrong, it’s not normal. So, I just want to come back to normal. To be a normal person, to be equal to animals. The birds make a nest in one or two days. The rats dig a hole in one night. But, the clever humans like us spend 30 years to have a house, and many people can’t believe that they can have a house in this life. So, that’s wrong.

我觉得一切都错了，这不正常。所以我只想让一切恢复正常。变成一个正常的人，和动物一样，鸟儿用一两天筑成一个窝，老鼠一个晚上就可以挖个洞。但是，像我们一样的聪明人，要花30年才能有一间房子，还有很多人不敢奢望这辈子能有一间房子，因此，这是错的。

Why we destroy our spirit, why do we destroy our ability that much? So, I feel like it’s enough for me, to live in the normal way, in the abnormal way. So, now I try to be normal. But, people look at me as the abnormal one. A crazy person. But, I don’t care, because it’s not my fault. It’s their fault, because they think like that.

为什么我们要摧毁自己的力量、破坏自己的能力？我觉得自己受够了不正常的生活方式，现在，我要回归正常，但是人们都觉得我不是个正常人。（笑声）把我当作一个疯子，但是我并不在意，因为这不是我的错，他们要这样想，是他们的错。

So, my life is easy and light now. That’s enough for me.

我现在的生活简单又轻松，我很满足。

People can think whatever they want. I cannot manage anything outside myself. What I can do is change my mind, manage my mind. Now, my mind is light and easy, that’s enough.

人们爱怎样想都可以。我只能控制我自己，我能做的就是改变和控制自己的想法。现在，我的思想简单又轻松，我很满足。

If anybody wants to have a choice, you can have a choice. The choice to be easy or to be hard, it depends on you.

假如任何人想有一个选择，他们都可以做出选择，选择轻松还是困难，完全取决于你自己。

Thank you.

谢谢。（掌声）