奥巴马演讲:奥巴马会见以色列总理内塔尼亚胡
President Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speak to the press about Middle East peace, sanctions against Iran and other mutual issues after meeting in the White House.
【Part 1】
12:38 P.M. EDT
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I just completed an excellent one-on-one discussion with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I want to welcome him back to the White House.
I want to, first of all, thank him for the wonderful statement that he made in honor of the Fourth of July, our Independence Day, when he was still in Israel. And it marked just one more chapter in the extraordinary friendship between our two countries.
As Prime Minister Netanyahu indicated in his speech, the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable. It encompasses our national security interests, our strategic interests, but most importantly, the bond of two democracies who share a common set of values and whose people have grown closer and closer as time goes on.
During our discussions in our private meeting we covered a wide range of issues. We discussed the issue of Gaza, and I commended Prime Minister Netanyahu on the progress that’s been made in allowing more goods into Gaza. We’ve seen real progress on the ground. I think it’s been acknowledged that it has moved more quickly and more effectively than many people anticipated.
Obviously there’s still tensions and issues there that have to be resolved, but our two countries are working cooperatively together to deal with these issues. The Quartet has been, I think, very helpful as well. And we believe that there is a way to make sure that the people of Gaza are able to prosper economically, while Israel is able to maintain its legitimate security needs in not allowing missiles and weapons to get to Hamas.
We discussed the issue of Iran, and we pointed out that as a consequence of some hard work internationally, we have instituted through the U.N. Security Council the toughest sanctions ever directed at an Iranian government. In addition, last week I signed our own set of sanctions, coming out of the United States Congress, as robust as any that we’ve ever seen. Other countries are following suit. And so we intend to continue to put pressure on Iran to meet its international obligations and to cease the kinds of provocative behavior that has made it a threat to its neighbors and the international community.
We had a extensive discussion about the prospects for Middle East peace. I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu wants peace. I think he’s willing to take risks for peace. And during our conversation, he once again reaffirmed his willingness to engage in serious negotiations with the Palestinians around what I think should be the goal not just of the two principals involved, but the entire world, and that is two states living side by side in peace and security.
Israel’s security needs met, the Palestinians having a sovereign state that they call their own — those are goals that have obviously escaped our grasp for decades now. But now more than ever I think is the time for us to seize on that vision. And I think that Prime Minister Netanyahu is prepared to do so. It’s going to be difficult; it’s going to be hard work. But we’ve seen already proximity talks taking place. My envoy, George Mitchell, has helped to organize five of them so far. We expect those proximity talks to lead to direct talks, and I believe that the government of Israel is prepared to engage in such direct talks, and I commend the Prime Minister for that.
There are going to need to be a whole set of confidence-building measures to make sure that people are serious and that we’re sending a signal to the region that this isn’t just more talk and more process without action. I think it is also important to recognize that the Arab states have to be supportive of peace, because, although ultimately this is going to be determined by the Israeli and Palestinian peoples, they can’t succeed unless you have the surrounding states having as — a greater investment in the process than we’ve seen so far.
Finally, we discussed issues that arose out of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Conference. And I reiterated to the Prime Minister that there is no change in U.S. policy when it comes to these issues. We strongly believe that, given its size, its history, the region that it’s in, and the threats that are leveled against us — against it, that Israel has unique security requirements. It’s got to be able to respond to threats or any combination of threats in the region. And that’s why we remain unwavering in our commitment to Israel’s security. And the United States will never ask Israel to take any steps that would undermine their security interests.
So I just want to say once again that I thought the discussion that we had was excellent. We’ve seen over the last year how our relationship has broadened. Sometimes it doesn’t get publicized, but on a whole range of issues — economic, military-to-military, issues related to Israel maintaining its qualitative military edge, intelligence-sharing, how we are able to work together effectively on the international front — that in fact our relationship is continuing to improve. And I think a lot of that has to do with the excellent work that the Prime Minister has done. So I’m grateful.
And welcome, once again, to the White House.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Thank you, Mr. President.
The President and I had an extensive, excellent discussion in which we discussed a broad range of issues. These include of course our own cooperation in the fields of intelligence and security. And exactly as the President said, it is extensive. Not everything is seen by the public, but it is seen and appreciated by us.
We understand fully that we will work together in the coming months and years to protect our common interests, our countries, our peoples, against new threats. And at the same time, we want to explore the possibility of peace.
The greatest new threat on the horizon, the single most dominant issue for many of us, is the prospect that Iran would acquire nuclear weapons. Iran is brutally terrorizing its people, spreading terrorism far and wide. And I very much appreciate the President’s statement that he is determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
That has been translated by the President through his leadership at the Security Council, which passed sanctions against Iran; by the U.S. bill that the President signed just a few days ago. And I urge other leaders to follow the President’s lead, and other countries to follow the U.S. lead, to adopt much tougher sanctions against Iran, primarily those directed against its energy sector.
As the President said, we discussed a great deal about activating, moving forward the quest for peace between Israel and the Palestinians. We’re committed to that peace. I’m committed to that peace. And this peace I think will better the lives of Israelis, of Palestinians, and it certainly would change our region.
Israelis are prepared to do a lot to get that peace in place, but they want to make sure that after all the steps they take, that what we get is a secure peace. We don’t want a repeat of the situation where we vacate territories and those are overtaken by Iran’s proxies and used as a launching ground for terrorist attacks or rocket attacks.
I think there are solutions that we can adopt. But in order to proceed to the solutions, we need to begin negotiations in order to end them. We’ve begun proximity talks. I think it’s high time to begin direct talks. I think with the help of President Obama, President Abbas and myself should engage in direct talks to reach a political settlement of peace, coupled with security and prosperity.
This requires that the Palestinian Authority prepare its people for peace — schools, textbooks, and so on. But I think at the end of the day, peace is the best option for all of us, and I think we have a unique opportunity and a unique time to do it.
The President says that he has a habit of confounding all the cynics and all the naysayers and all those who preclude possibility, and he’s shown it time and time again. I think I’ve had my opportunity to confound some cynics myself, and I think if we work together, with President Abbas, then we can bring a great message of hope to our peoples, to the region, and to the world.
One final point, Mr. President — I want to thank you for reaffirming to me in private and now in public as you did the longstanding U.S. commitments to Israel on matters of vital strategic importance. I want to thank you, too, for the great hospitality you and the First Lady have shown Sara and me and our entire delegation. And I think we have to redress the balance — you know, I’ve been coming here a lot. It’s about time —
【Part 2】
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I’m ready.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: — you and the First Lady came to Israel, sir.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We look forward to it. Thank you.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Any time.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Thank you very much. Thank you.
All right, we’ve got time for one question each. I’m going to call on Stephen Collinson, AFP.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. As part of the steps which need to be taken to move proximity talks on to direct talks, do you think it would be helpful for Israel to extend the partial settlement moratorium, which is set to expire in September?
And if I could just briefly ask the Prime Minister, with regards to the sanctions you mentioned, do you think that these measures will contain or halt Iran’s nuclear program where others have failed?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Let me — let me, first of all, say that I think the Israeli government, working through layers of various governmental entities and jurisdictions, has shown restraint over the last several months that I think has been conducive to the prospects of us getting into direct talks.
And my hope is, is that once direct talks have begun, well before the moratorium has expired, that that will create a climate in which everybody feels a greater investment in success. Not every action by one party or the other is taken as a reason for not engaging in talks. So there ends up being more room created by more trust. And so I want to just make sure that we sustain that over the next — over the next several weeks.
I do think that there are a range of confidence-building measures that can be taken by all sides that improve the prospects of a successful negotiation. And I’ve discussed some of those privately with the Prime Minister. When President Abbas was here, I discussed some of those same issues with him.
I think it’s very important that the Palestinians not look for excuses for incitement, that they are not engaging in provocative language; that at the international level, they are maintaining a constructive tone, as opposed to looking for opportunities to embarrass Israel.
At the same time, I’ve said to Prime Minister Netanyahu — I don’t think he minds me sharing it publicly — that Abu Mazen working with Fayyad have done some very significant things when it comes to the security front. And so us being able to widen the scope of their responsibilities in the West Bank is something that I think would be very meaningful to the Palestinian people. I think that some of the steps that have already been taken in Gaza help to build confidence. And if we continue to make progress on that front, then Palestinians can see in very concrete terms what peace can bring that rhetoric and violence cannot bring — and that is people actually having an opportunity to raise their children, and make a living, and buy and sell goods, and build a life for themselves, which is ultimately what people in both Israel and the Palestinian Territories want.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: I think the latest sanctions adopted by the U.N. create illegitimacy or create de-legitimization for Iran’s nuclear program, and that is important. I think the sanctions the President signed the other day actually have teeth. They bite.
The question is — how much do you need to bite is something I cannot answer now. But if other nations adopted similar sanctions, that would increase the effect. The more like-minded countries join in the American-led effort that President Obama has signed into act, into law, I think the better we’ll be able to give you an answer to your question.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Is there somebody you want to ask here?
Q Mr. President, in the past year, you distanced yourself from Israel and gave a cold shoulder to the Prime Minister. Do you think this policy was a mistake? Do you think it contributes to the bashing of Israel by others? And is that — you change it now, and do you trust now Prime Minister Netanyahu?
And if I may, Mr. Prime Minister, specifically, did you discuss with the President the continuing of the freezing of settlements after September? And did you tell him that you’re going to keep on building after this period is over?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, let me, first of all, say that the premise of your question was wrong and I entirely disagree with it. If you look at every public statement that I’ve made over the last year and a half, it has been a constant reaffirmation of the special relationship between the United States and Israel, that our commitment to Israel’s security has been unwavering. And, in fact, there aren’t any concrete policies that you could point to that would contradict that.
And in terms of my relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu, I know the press, both in Israel and stateside, enjoys seeing if there’s news there. But the fact of the matter is that I’ve trusted Prime Minister Netanyahu since I met him before I was elected President, and have said so both publicly and privately.
I think that he is dealing with a very complex situation in a very tough neighborhood. And what I have consistently shared with him is my interest in working with him — not at cross-purposes — so that we can achieve the kind of peace that will ensure Israel’s security for decades to come.
And that’s going to mean some tough choices. And there are going to be times where he and I are having robust discussions about what kind of choices need to be made. But the underlying approach never changes, and that is the United States is committed to Israel’s security; we are committed to that special bond; and we are going to do what’s required to back that up, not just with words but with actions.
We are going to continually work with the Prime Minister and the entire Israeli government, as well as the Israeli people, so that we can achieve what I think has to be everybody’s goal, which is that people feel secure. They don’t feel like a rocket is going to be landing on their head sometime. They don’t feel as if there’s a growing population that wants to direct violence against Israel.
That requires work and that requires some difficult choices — both at the strategic level and the tactical level. And this is something that the Prime Minister understands, and why I think that we’re going to be able to work together not just over the next few months but hopefully over the next several years.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: The President and I discussed concrete steps that could be done now, in the coming days and the coming weeks, to move the peace process further along in a very robust way. This is what we focused our conversation on. And when I say the next few weeks, that’s what I mean. The President means that, too.
Let me make a general observation about the question you posed to the President. And here I’ll have to paraphrase Mark Twain, that the reports about the demise of the special U.S.-Israel relations — relationship aren’t just premature, they’re just flat wrong. There’s a depth and richness of this relationship that is expressed every day. Our teams talk. We don’t make it public. The only thing that’s public is that you can have differences on occasion in the best of families and the closest of families; that comes out public — and sometimes in a twisted way, too.
What is not told is the fact that we have an enduring bond of values, interests, beginning with security and the way that we share both information and other things to help the common defense of our common interests — and many others in the region who don’t often admit to the beneficial effect of this cooperation.
So I think there’s — the President said it best in his speech in Cairo. He said in front of the entire Islamic world, he said, the bond between Israel and the United States is unbreakable. And I can affirm that to you today.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Thank you very much, everybody.
END
1:01 P.M. EDT
【相关中文报道】
内容摘要: 7月6日，美国总统奥巴马与到访的以色列总理内塔尼亚胡在白宫举行会晤，双方均表示任何关于两国关系出现裂痕的言论都是无根据的，奥巴马还表示美国与以色列之间的关系“牢不可破”。
奥巴马称美以关系牢不可破
7月6日，美国总统奥巴马与到访的以色列总理内塔尼亚胡在白宫举行会晤，双方均表示任何关于两国关系出现裂痕的言论都是无根据的，奥巴马还表示美国与以色列之间的关系“牢不可破”。美联社分析说，奥巴马与内塔尼亚胡在白宫的这次会见，目的是缓和两国的紧张关系。
奥巴马在会晤时表示，他相信内塔尼亚胡是希望和平的，以色列也在认真地考虑与巴勒斯坦恢复直接和谈。奥巴马称以色列近日放松对加沙地带封锁是取得的“真正进步”，他对此表示欢迎。奥巴马还表示，美国从来不会要求以色列做出破坏以安全的任何举动，他特别指出，美国与以色列的关系“牢不可破”。
奥巴马会见了来访的以色列总理内塔尼亚胡后举行了记者会，奥巴马对记者说，他和内塔尼亚胡还讨论了伊朗的核计划，以及以色列在允许更多的援助物资进入哈马斯统治的加沙方面取得的进步。奥巴马说，他和内塔尼亚胡就中东和平问题的前景进行了“广泛的讨论”。他说，内塔尼亚胡显示愿意与巴勒斯坦人进行 “认真的谈判”。
内塔尼亚胡对记者说，现在是以色列和巴勒斯坦开始直接谈判的“恰当时机”。他说，他计划不久就采取“具体步骤”，“以有力的方式进一步”推动和平进程。内塔尼亚胡则做出保证，以色列将致力于巴以实现和平。内塔尼亚胡还表示，关于美以两国关系出现问题的报道是“完全错误的”。奥巴马与内塔尼亚胡在会见中均表示任何关于两国关系出现裂痕的言论都是无根据的。
奥巴马6日与以色列总理内塔尼亚胡之时，不少抗议者聚集在华盛顿一家公园内举行抗议活动，要求以色列解除对加沙地带的封锁。
内塔尼亚胡希望美国支持以色列立场
今年5月份，内塔尼亚胡就打算访问美国，但为应对以军袭击国际救援船队一事而不得不取消行程回国。在这次会晤中，两国领导人都淡化了美、以关系的紧张。内塔尼亚胡说，他此行的主要目的是争取美国支持以色列和巴勒斯坦展开直接和谈。
内塔尼亚胡上一次在3月访问美国之前，以色列刚刚宣布在阿拉伯人聚居的东耶路撒冷建造1600栋犹太人新住房的计划。美国官员批评了以色列的该项计划，当时正值美国副总统拜登访问以色列之际。奥巴马和内塔尼亚胡3月的会面没有安排合影，内塔尼亚胡遭到了奥巴马冷落。而这一次允许电视摄像机和媒体进入白宫，两位领导人也发表了相互支持的公开声明。
有分析指出，内塔尼亚胡此次访美不单是为“修复”以美关系做出努力，更重要的是希望在展开以巴直接和谈的立场上得到美方支持，同时要求美方对伊朗进一步施压。以色列总理内塔尼亚胡说，现在是“以色列和巴勒斯坦人之间举行直接会谈”的时候了。他说，有必要进行直接对话，以便达成“和平的政治解决。 ”但外界认为，内塔尼亚胡此行将难有成果。
以巴和谈之路依然艰难
以色列2008年底对加沙地带发动大规模军事行动，巴以直接谈判随即中止。双方今年5月宣布启动在美国斡旋下的间接和谈，由美方特使米切尔穿梭于以巴双方，传递信息、协调立场。以色列方面一直敦促以巴尽快从间接和谈过渡至直接谈判。巴方坚持认为，启动直接和谈前，以色列必须全面停止犹太人“定居点”建设活动。
在美国特使乔治・米切尔的斡旋下进行了两个月的间接会谈之后，内塔尼亚胡希望进一步发展到直接谈判。他说：“我在华盛顿和奥巴马总统交谈的一个主要内容将是如何立即开始以巴直接和谈。” 以色列认为，直接会谈是解决冲突中最棘手问题的唯一途径，例如耶路撒冷地位问题、巴勒斯坦难民问题以及巴勒斯坦国的最终边界问题。
巴勒斯坦在2008年下半年以色列对加沙地带发动军事攻击后中止了同以色列的直接会谈。巴勒斯坦方面已经明确表示，在以色列彻底冻结在被占领土兴建犹太定居点之前他们不会与内塔尼亚胡直接会谈。巴勒斯坦方面认为，现在还没有取得足够的进展，使双方能够开始直接谈判。巴勒斯坦人声言，要在这些被占领的领土上建立未来的国家。
有评论认为，奥巴马执政后，在中东和平进程方面并未取得进展。奥巴想借这次和内塔尼亚胡会谈来推动以巴和谈，但以巴双方的矛盾根深蒂固，目前进行的间接和谈并未取得实质性成果，就目前的形势来看，恢复以巴直接和谈仍然是困难重重。（文字来源：中国网）
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